Stop Chasing, Start Vetting: Dating, Attraction & Game with Mr. Locario

Reza Ghaemi: Hello, hello, hello, hello. Welcome to the Res Podcast. Great conversations have the power to challenge the way we think, inspire growth, and broaden our perspective. Hosted by the Res Gyamy, the Res Podcast explores topics that matter from personal development and relationships to business, culture, mindset, and the everyday questions that shape our lives through honest conversations with guests from all walks of life. Each episode offers fresh insights, thoughtful discussions, and practical ideas you can take away with you. All right, so I'm gonna introduce Mr. Lucario. Today's episode is personally important to me because the dating and self-development world played a meaningful role in helping me build confidence, improve my social skills, and better understand attraction and relationships. My best my guest today is Mr. Lucario. A dating co a dating and life coach with more than 20 years of experience. He's known for his direct, realistic, and no-nonsense approach to dating confidence. And helping people understand what they genuinely want. I'm a big fan of yours, Mr. Lucario. And I I follow you on Instagram. I I I watch your shit all the time. And I I really resonate with what you do. So welcome to the Res Podcast.

Mr. Locario: Yeah, man. Well, I appreciate you having me, man. Real talk. I I appreciate it. I'm I'm glad to be here. Let's let's make it happen. What's going on with

Reza Ghaemi: Yo, thank thanks for being here, man.

Mr. Locario: you? How's everything?

Reza Ghaemi: it it's it's been good. I've been dating somebody for a few months. we're happy. and I think the next level for me is really relationship advice. Not not necessarily how to like, you know, pick up and get the dates, but how how to how to handle yeah, how

Mr. Locario: Ooh. Right. I mean Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: to handle all that shit. I don't know if that's what you do, but

Mr. Locario: yeah, I do all that. We we talk about all those things, yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, okay, yeah. 'Cause it's mainly, you know, I don't know. a lot of guys think it's like picking up the girl, but obviously there's some other aspects to the relationship itself, right?

Mr. Locario: yeah, yeah. There's a is a is a lot of different things when it comes to the game. It's it's layers and a lot of it has to do with you know, you understanding yourself so you can execute in a certain way that's gonna benefit not only you but, you know, the woman that you're with. You know what I'm saying? So it all it all comes down to it.

Reza Ghaemi: So actually before before I get into the the main stuff I want to talk to you about is so I I'm not like one of those dudes that like if I go to a club with my my girl's pretty hot, I'm not gonna lie, you know, in my opinion, especially when she dresses up. When we go out, certain times, Mr. Lucario dudes try to fuck with me. Like, like, like they'll try to fuck like I introduced her to a DJ once, right? And like she was like being friendly because she thought that he was my homie.

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: So she like fist bumps him and then she gra and the DJ grabs her in a way that was weird. Like brings him, you know, hugs her

Mr. Locario: Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: uninvitedly. And of course, I'm not I don't know, what would you do? Like, is that normal? Am I being crazy?

Mr. Locario: I mean, I wouldn't do anything. I don't think that's it. I don't think that's a big deal. The thing is, so the thing is

Reza Ghaemi: Okay. Not a big deal?

Mr. Locario: this, if well, this is the thing, right? So is one thing if he knows did he know that was your girlfriend?

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah.

Mr. Locario: Okay. Well if he knew that was your girlfriend and he was doing that, then that might be an issue. But 'cause I didn't know if he knew that I was your girlfriend. I thought he just probably just thought I was a girl. so he knew that was a girl.

Reza Ghaemi: That's what saying. No, no, no. He knew. He knew. Yeah. And in fact, she she mentioned it to me. She's

Mr. Locario: Mm.

Reza Ghaemi: like, Reza, by the way, I don't know. I thought that was a little weird. And I'm like, okay, that was weird. Why did you let him do that? And she's like, I don't know. I thought he was your homie. And anyway, so we'll not talk about my personal therapy shit. But I wanted to get into a segment with you, rapid fire segment. So I'm gonna name some well-known people from the dating and self-development world.

Mr. Locario: Okay.

Reza Ghaemi: For each person, simply tell me whether you respect their coaching, disagree with their coaching, or don't know enough about them. All right.

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: And I'll let you I'll let your answer first. I'll let you answer first because I don't want my opinions to influence you.

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: This is gonna be controversial, Mr. Lacario. I'm excited for this. 'Cause a lot of these people follow you and you follow them. I noticed that on Instagram. So

Mr. Locario: Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: I know I know you know them, they know you. But

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: I guess just tell me genuinely, I guess, if you approve, disapprove, and comment on on on why. Let's

Mr. Locario: Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: start with Michael Sartain.

Mr. Locario: yeah, shout out to Michael Sartain. He's he's a cool guy. I'll fuck with Michael Sartain. Don't don't the thing though is I feel like half of the stuff I agree with, half of the stuff I disagree with. but other than that, you know, Michael Sartane's a cool dude, so I I rock with him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Michael.

Reza Ghaemi: Well, I'm not asking about he's a cool dude, Mr. Locario. I'm asking if his dating advice is legit. You said half the stuff you agree, and this is what I was

Mr. Locario: Yeah, half the stuff I agree with, half the stuff I don't agree with. But that but that but see, I'll say this. Everyone you have on the list, I'm probably gonna have something I disagree with them with anyway. Right. Right.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, so so we'll get into that. So let's go down the list and then we'll we'll talk about why you disagree and agree. So do you know Jeff Jeff Allen from RST? Real social dynamics.

Mr. Locario: I think so. I think I know who you're talking about, but I I I haven't seen a lot of his information.

Reza Ghaemi: not specifically Jeff Allen, but R S D in general.

Mr. Locario: Yeah no RSD, yeah. Mm. Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: Real social dynamics before all you know, the shit went down. Do you agree with the type of coaching?

Mr. Locario: Yeah, I think a lot of their stuff is good. A lot of their stuff is good. I think a you know, I first of all, I think that anybody who puts in work and energy to teach men to get out of their house and get out of their comfort zone to meet women is good. You know what I mean? but you know, I think a lot yeah, a lot of the R Z stuff I used I liked because they would actually have seminars, they take the guys out, they have them interact with with you know, different women. So I think that's a good thing.

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, no, I I agree. I anyway, I don't want to get my opinion yet, but I I was definitely

Mr. Locario: Yeah. right.

Reza Ghaemi: I grew up, you know, ten years R S D. okay, Owen Cook, I guess you said you're so let's not talk about RSC members.

Mr. Locario: yeah, this horizon.

Reza Ghaemi: Mystery. Eric Mystery. OG of the dating game, mystery.

Mr. Locario: Mystery. Shout out to Mystery. That's Mr Mystery seems like such a good guy. You know what I'm saying? I like

Reza Ghaemi: Yep, yep.

Mr. Locario: I a lot of the stuff I disagree with, you know, 'cause I I disagree with a lot of the pickup artistry type of stuff. but other than that, you know, he seems like a cool dude, you know what I'm saying? But I disagree with with the philosophy.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, Mr. Ms. Mr. Licario, I'm gonna I'm gonna challenge you on that because yeah, because the foundation was built. He was a OG, but we'll we'll t we'll get into that.

Mr. Locario: Mm.

Reza Ghaemi: I guess you know what, that does it for me. Let's let's stop right there with the with the dating coaches. so let's talk about social circle game, with is which is what Michael Sartane talks about. And here's my take on social circle shit. I threw parties, Mr. Lucario. And I got shit stolen from me. I got the cops called on me. The bitch stole a fucking gold $3,000 bracelet from me. So what the fuck is this social circle game that people talk about? What is this shit?

Mr. Locario: Right. Well, the thing is, if you're interacting with women in a social circle, the the individual man still needs to have games. He still needs to understand himself. He still needs to have social skills. He still needs to know how to navigate to figure out if this woman he's talking to is interested in him or not. Is she using him for attention or not? Is she gonna try to manipulate him or not? So what happens is is what's good about having a social circle is Is that you can have, you know, in front of you literal access to women, which is good because you're in proximity to women you can talk to and interact with. The problem though is that if you don't know what you're doing, then it's gonna be an issue. It's almost like giving a a five-year-old like a a firecracker or something, you know what I'm saying? Or or or giving

Reza Ghaemi: That's kind of what happened to me. That's what happened to me then. Yeah. So so okay, okay. Elaborate because

Mr. Locario: Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: because the thing is, like, would you throw a party to just get your house trashed? Like again, in theory it sounds good, but like unless you're fucking Dan Balsarian or somebody who's really wealthy who

Mr. Locario: Mm.

Reza Ghaemi: has this orchestration orchestration of parties going on. How how can I be a normal dude throwing a house party and like you know what I mean?

Mr. Locario: Well, the thing is, i if you see, this is see what I teach guys is this, right? You can do whatever you want to do. The issue though is is what is the reason behind why you're doing what you're doing? And what what is the so if you're so I think if you're throwing a party or you're trying to create a scenario just to try to attract women, I think that you're gonna run into issues, right? Now, if you Are throwing a party, how you have women come through or your friends have the women come through, y'all hang out, do what you do. And then they're there and you're having a conversation, interacting with them like how you would do it on a regular day anyway. There's nothing wrong with that because you're still filtering the women through your own program and your own standards. You see what I'm saying? So anytime when you're using something to acquire, but it's not necessarily about you specifically, that's when you're gonna run into issues. And that's why I said I'm a I'm a probably disagree with you know a lot of a lot of the the coaches cause what happens is a lot of the coaches are just women focused in the sense of they disregard the guy and they're

Reza Ghaemi: Mm.

Mr. Locario: women focused. So they're like, okay, what are the things we can do to get the women? And so my thing is is that I teach guys how to be the guy women want to get. That's that's the that's the totally different thing. So it's it's a it's a you know it's flipped. So the the problem is that when you're trying to get women Essentially you're gonna try to do more and more things to try to get them, which means that you are on the side of trying to impress them in either directly or indirectly to think you're cool or interesting in order for something to go down. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Which is in itself not the right way to do it.

Mr. Locario: Yeah, I mean, well th the thing is this, it's I would say this. There's there's plenty of ways to have interactions with women. You just have to you just have to be aware of what you're doing and take everything that comes with that. So so a lot of times guys say, Well, how do I get women? You or how do I get sex? Lots of ways. You can get sex by finding women who are sexually attracted to to you. You can get sex by tricking, you can get sex by simping, you can get sex sex by lying. Like you could there's all these different ways to get sex or to to acquire those situations with women. Well, what happens is you have to take what goes with all those things. So if you want to trick, you also have to take that there are women that you're tricking on who have no respect for you. Therefore, there could be other things that go down at the end of the day because of that. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. but fuck, lost my train of thought. This is what happens when you drink fucking blue label at six thirty PM. okay, what was I gonna ask you? so s we got the social circles. Okay, so would you prefer if if if if a guy is wanting to get a girlfriend, social circle game or just standard cold approach game? Which is easier?

Mr. Locario: Which is easier? Shit. That's a that's a that's such a load of question.

Reza Ghaemi: Mm, mm.

Mr. Locario: Cause both of them are gonna suck if he if he does if he if he doesn't know what he's doing. but

Reza Ghaemi: Mm.

Mr. Locario: if I had to if I had to choose, hmm damn, if I had to choose between in the social circle and then just going out and approaching women, I would choose going out and approaching women first. And and the reason why I say that is because If you're in a situation with a bunch of women in a particular social circle, but you don't have any social skills, then it doesn't matter that you're in the social circle because you don't have any social skills. Then you're

Reza Ghaemi: Mm.

Mr. Locario: you're essentially there and either you're going to be too shy or scared to talk to the women, or if women talk to you, you're gonna be all nervous and the women have more skills than you at s socializing. So then therefore they're gonna basically run you. So this is why I tell guys that they have to practice their thing so that they know what to do in all situations when they're interacting with women. And what happens is if a guy is approaching women on his own, there are certain things that he'll learn through that by him having those interactions with women that can up his social skills. And if he's still having trouble, this is why you we have coaches so that the coaches can help him out with those situations. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: U Mr. Lucario for that. I attest. okay, okay, let's move right along to mystery. cause let me tell you, you said he's a nice guy, and I I definitely know what a nice guy he is. Cause I was I just published a book about bipolar and I was in the hospital for it. And Mystery at the time, he fucking reached out to me on Instagram. He's like, Yo, bro, you're not well. And so it was really nice of him because he he didn't know who I was. So I know he's he's truly a good good human being. And by the way, the negging, which ruined his reputation, I think the negging shit ruined his whole career. It wasn't designed to be an insult, Mr. Lucario. Negging was supposed to be a disqualifier. Why did people misconstrue negging? How did that happen? Negging was supposed to be like like to the girl, listen, too bad I'm gay or else I'd be your type. That was negging. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. Am I wrong about that? Like 'cause 'cause we've talked about this before offline.

Mr. Locario: That's that's funny. That's funny. Well well this is the thing, and and and shout out to mystery, but this is why I've never really you know, because even back in the day when I used to see the the the the pick apart is show on I think it was

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah. B H one, yeah.

Mr. Locario: one and stuff, and what was always funny to me is this, and I and I think guys need to understand this, right? So I understand the concept of the whole neging thing or women giving you shit tests and things like that.

Reza Ghaemi: Mm-hmm.

Mr. Locario: The the issue or the problem that a lot of people don't understand is is that is that if if you have to do those things in the first place, because the point of it was essentially I'm going to say these things, that's going to sort of get the woman to quote unquote chase me or chase my validation or want to make something happen. The problem with that is is that a woman, if she's not interested in you at all, right? Or She's not really highly interested in you, none of that's gonna matter. But so, so, so essentially it's like this. Let's say, let's say I had a a gay best friend and he was like, Man, I like Reza. He's he's a cool guy. And let me go neg him, and then maybe he'll like you see what I'm saying? Like you're not interested in him. So no matter what he says or does, it's not gonna make a difference. And so,

Reza Ghaemi: Mm mm.

Mr. Locario: and so that's what a lot of guys don't understand when it comes to this: is that there are women who are Going to be highly interested in you. There's gonna be women who have zero interest in you, and then they're gonna be women who are in the middle. You understand what I'm saying? Now, I always tell guys the the women who are in the middle are the worst, actually, right? Because the reason why they're the worst is because the women in the middle give off the illusion that something might happen. And sometimes things might happen, but in more cases than not, it doesn't. Because when a woman is in the middle, That means that you have to put in more work and energy to interact with her for her to want to make something happen. But the ironic part about that is that the fact that you are putting in more work essentially makes her see you as less attractive over time anyway. Do you see what saying? So that's why they're worse.

Reza Ghaemi: Mm-hmm.

Mr. Locario: So the guy's like, she's giving me a little bit of energy. So let me continue. Let me talk to her more. Let me text her more. Let me double text. Let me try to get her out on a second date, even though she flaked. Let me try. So you're doing all these things and you can wear a woman down and then she might say yes if you catch her at the right time. The problem with that is that even if she says yes, you're interacting with a woman who is not highly interested in you, which means you're gonna get resistance, which means that you're dealing with the woman who settled for you. And so that's gonna be unf un un it's gonna be an unfavorable experience with those types of women. That's why I tell guys, focus on the women who are highly interested in you. And you can find out if a woman is highly interested in you or she's like in the middle or she has no interests based on going out there and interacting with women consistently because you'll see the patterns of women who are women who are interested in you highly act this way. Women who are in the middle act this way and women who have zero interest act this way. You see what I'm saying? It's really simple.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay. That's that's like I think the basis of one of your programs probably.

Mr. Locario: yeah, yeah. I talk about that a lot. Definitely.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay. Okay. So it's basically like you're screening for like you're trying to tell the the man that you gotta be yourself and

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: and then talk to me a little bit more about how that works.

Mr. Locario: Yeah. So basically all you're doing is is that you are interacting with women and giving them the opportunity to get with your program. Now, the women who are attracted to you and highly interested, they will get with your program with no resistance. So I always say that resistance equals some form of disinterest, right? When a woman is resisting you in any type of way, that it always means that she's not highly interested in you, which essentially means That you are not the guy that she sees as her top choice, the best guy she thinks she can get with. She doesn't see you as him. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: And and sorry, by lack by by resistance, you're talking lack of compliance?

Mr. Locario: Yes. And and and I'm saying any of it. So meaning like anything that you say from the beginning from once you start talking to a woman to the time she's in your bedroom or to the time y'all get whatever. Anything from high, if there's any resistance. So if I say hi to a woman, right? And she looks at me funny and doesn't and doesn't respond, that's resistance. You see what I'm saying? At that point, I need to walk away. The the issue

Reza Ghaemi: That's resistance. Yep. Walk away. Yep.

Mr. Locario: is that most guys, what they'll be like, but bro, that's a shit test. You should just keep talking and keep. See what I'm saying? And it's so all you're doing from

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah.

Mr. Locario: that point is you're chasing. Then and that's what the guys don't understand.

Reza Ghaemi: Question, question. Mr. Lucari, do you ever coach like celebs? Have you ever coached a celeb?

Mr. Locario: I've had one or two guys. I mean, I'm not gonna say who they are. It's I wouldn't say like they've been on on T V series. I'm not gonna Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, okay, okay. So they're kind of celebs. Now, why is it that these types of folks struggle with dating?

Mr. Locario: Well, it's this, it's the thing that guys have to understand is that the game is perfectly balanced. So what does that mean? That means that so a lot of guys think if I have certain characteristics, qualities, status, whatever, then it's gonna be easier for me. And actually it's not. So so I'll I'll say this to to to respond to that. So for example, a a person might say, Well, if you're really, really good looking, then you got it in the bag. The problem they don't realize is that if you're really, really good looking, there are gonna be women who are gonna Be intimidated by you. They're gonna be women who are gonna interact with you and maybe sexually attracted to you, but never take you seriously for long term, so forth and so on. So if you have like, let's say, a guy who's famous, been on TV, status, and all that other stuff, that type of guy will also have problems. Because what happens is it's the same dynamic, is that you might meet a woman who's a fan of you or a woman who, you know, is understands your notoriety and and your celeb status and all this other stuff. But what happens is that you also will attract. Women who are experts at manipulation. So you might meet a woman who's it's essentially very, very physically appealing. She knows a lot of guys are attracted to her. And this guy who's the celebrity would probably also be attracted to her. But then what happens is that she uses that to her advantage to try to manipulate the guy into doing certain things for her. Just like for example, Shannon Sharp the other day. He got caught up because he had this young 20, 21-year-old girl. And he was hooking up with her, but then she manipulated him and now she got millions of dollars from this guy. You know what I mean? And there's there's countless other things where you have like basketball players, football players, they're with these women. And what happens is that the women, you know, they come and they manipulate the situation. Or you might have a situation where a woman has in her in her mind put you on that pedestal because you have that notoriety. And when she gets to see the real you and interact with the real you, she's like, he's not who I thought he was. He's acting weird and creepy. So now the reality sets in and she's not attracted to him like, you know, like she thought at first. So a lot of the reason why I said the game is perfectly balanced is what happens is that there's always something else that there's always something that's missing that will cause it to balance out. This is why I tell guys that you have to make sure that your game is tight. So that when your game is tight, you realize that hey, If I want a particular outcome or things to go down, right, I have to make sure that my stuff is so tight that when I'm doing my thing, all I have to do is do the things that need to be done in order to create the scenarios and situations that I want to happen. But it's also still balanced, meaning that, for example, just because I'm like, I'm like, I'm Mr. Locario, I'm so cool and awesome and all this other stuff. If I don't go out and approach women, I'm not gonna get no women. If I don't actually if I'm not confident and and have a conversation and interaction and lead it, I'm not going to actually, I'm not gonna get anywhere with women. Like I still have to put in the work and do the things that needs to be done for me to get what I need to get. And that goes for every guy. And what happens is that you're gonna always have something that is going to be a situation where you're gonna be talking to women and those women are not gonna be into you for whatever reason. So, for example, I'm a black guy, 5'11, muscular. a athletic fit, right? I might talk to a guy a woman that she's just not into black dudes for whatever reason and and it's I'm not gonna it's not gonna gel what it's not gonna happen it's not gonna be compatible right just off the strength of that one thing you see what I'm saying so I still need to talk to other women and find the women who are into who I am whether it's surface level or beneath the surface and so that's what a lot of guys don't get a lot of guys think that there's this magical thing that they can do and we In order for 99.9999% of women to be into it, and it it doesn't work that way. And it and it's good that it doesn't work that way because that keeps the game balanced. That means that every man has to do the work to acquire what he wants to happen in the game. That's how that's how it goes down. And nobody has an advantage. A lot of people think they like even dudes say pretty people say pretty privilege. You got you got privilege because you're rich. And it's none of that matters because even if someone thinks you're pretty. Right. There's a lot of assumptions that go with that. And if you don't meet those assumptions, that essentially makes you less attractive because in their mind they thought you were gonna be this way based on you being pretty or whatever it is like that. So it always balances out.

Reza Ghaemi: Shit. That's a lot of fucking valuable nuggets there. I always thought that if you're a very rich guy or celebrity or some shit like that, then you're in a different league. There's levels to the shit, right? As they say. So it's not the case.

Mr. Locario: No, you're it's actually it's actually worse. So basically, if you don't have game and you're famous and rich, it's worse for you. Because see, if you were rich and famous and had game, okay, then now now it's it's you're like, cool. Now I I I can I can easily get access because of my notoriety, but then you still, again, because it's balance, you still have to have a filtering system, a vetting system. Like, for example, for the for I have a program called Master the Vetting Process where I talk about a guy should be interacting with a woman for at least 12 to 18 months before he makes her his girlfriend. If I was coaching someone that was like let's say super, super famous, like let's let's say I was coaching Drake for whatever reason. Drake's like, you know what? I got all these women, man, but they they just want me because I'm famous and you know I'll be hooking up, but they don't, you know. And Drake's like, I really want to find a woman who cares about me. Right. So then I would tell Drake, listen, you need to vet women for at least two to three years before Before you even consider having one of them as your girlfriend, right? And so what happened is that because he's rich and famous, he has to have a vetting process to make sure is this woman with me for me or just for my money? Is this woman trying to play games? Is this woman gonna try to manipulate me? Is she gonna say that I did something to her that I didn't? All of those things need to be tested in order for him to have a successful relationship. You see what I'm saying? So so having money and status and all that doesn't make it easier, it makes you an easier target. If you don't got game. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, Mr. Ligardi, can you we got we got a few more minutes, so I'm gonna take advantage of my time with you. Okay.

Mr. Locario: Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: How do you know if a woman is with you for you or with s for some b some other intention?

Mr. Locario: Well, the the simplest way is this, and I always tell guys this you have to give women the least and see how cooperative they are going to be consistently with you giving them the least, right? So so even so even for example, let's say you are the type of guy where they know you're rich or successful or whatever. Let's say let's say you you know, let's use Drake again for example, right? let's say he meets a woman. And what Drake probably would usually do is like, you know, fly her out, buy her gifts and all this other stuff. Drake needs to take that woman to to go get coffee. You understand what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, but then the woman's gonna know he's just doing that. In a real example.

Mr. Locario: No, no, no, but that but that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that but that's what I'm saying. Even Drake, Drake still needs to go get coffee with that woman. Because if that woman is like, Drake, I thought we would be flying to Turks and Caicos, then it shows, right? You see what I'm saying? So already shows for hand. You see what I mean? But let's say an average guy, average guy, a regular

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Okay, okay. I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mr. Locario: dude who's not a famous or whatever, he still again has to do the lease. So he might hit up a girl and say, Hey, let's go get a drink, or let's go get ice cream or something, something small or whatever, right? So, or he may just Talk to the girl on the phone or the FaceTime and say, hey, come over to my place or whatever. So he's not, he hasn't done anything for her. He hasn't spent a lot of money. He hasn't spent a lot of time. He hasn't spent a lot of energy. So I t always tell guys, do the least. Almost, almost damn near do nothing. Like all you need to do is hit the girl up, set up the date. See you on the date. Hit the girl up, set up the time you're gonna get together for her to come over your crib or whatever. And that's it. Like all you need to do is The least. Contact the girl, tell her what you're gonna do, and then see if she does it. All the extra stuff

Reza Ghaemi: Hundred percent.

Mr. Locario: needs to get thrown out the window because all the extra stuff attracts women who will use you. You see what I'm saying? That's what guys are never saying.

Reza Ghaemi: Yep. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I oftentimes made this mistake, Mr. Licario. Whenever I like, for example, there was a girl that was, you know, really hot or I liked her a lot. I would wanna do something a like extraordinary, expensive dinners and bullshit.

Mr. Locario: Mm. Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: Bad idea. And I learned I learned my lesson. But this is ma magic advice or great advice you're given to the man out there. Now, what would the the woman, let's say they're the women are listening to this podcast. How would they feel about what you're saying? If if you don't if how would how would it make sense in their eyes? Because it makes sense in my eyes what you're saying.

Mr. Locario: Yeah. Well well, that's the thing. It's not it's not supposed to make sense in their eyes. So so so most of the time when women hear this, they'll hate it because what happens is is that from their perspective, right? they are the recipient of the interaction. Like they receive the situation. You're giving the situation, right? So so all they I always use the example of Amazon, like when you order something from Amazon. Amazon brings the package to your house, right? But you most people have no idea the process step by step of what Amazon has to do to get the package from the the place to your house, or even how they got it to the the the warehouse to make it. So there's all these, let's say there's five or six steps that it goes from you ordering it online to getting it to your crib, right? Us as customers. We don't need to know what they're doing behind behind the closed doors. We just know we we buy something on Amazon on the internet, it comes to our house in a few days, right? So it's the same thing for women. Women don't need to know what a man is doing or thinking. She just needs to, she's just gonna receive the, you see what I'm saying? The package. You feel what I'm saying? That's basically what it is. So so what happens is that. You can't really ex you can't really explain this to women. A woman just has to experience a man. This is why it never makes sense to explain to a woman yourself. A lot of guys like to explain to women what they're doing. You shouldn't really explain to women anything, right? You just tell women what to do. And then if they're interested in you, they will do it. That's what a lot of guys don't understand. So what happens is is that If I if I'm meeting a woman, I'm not gonna say to her, Hey, let's go get coffee because I I need to, you know, test you out and make sure that you're not with me for my money. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say that to a woman. You say what I'm saying? But that's what I'm doing. All she's experiencing is a man that she's attracted to, inviting her out for coffee, and she comes because she's attracted and she wants to get the coffee with that man. That's all she needs to know. All the other stuff, she doesn't need to know now because we're online and she can watch this, then yeah, she'll hear me say this and hear us talk about this. But for you guys out there who are actually doing what you do, you don't have to sit a woman down and say, Hey, look, I'm gonna take you out to coffee and I'm gonna vet you for at least twelve months before I make you my girl because I gotta you don't have to explain none of that stuff. You see what I mean?

Reza Ghaemi: Question, question. Now, if you were if you had a female friend or a sister, let's say you had a sister. I don't know. Do you have a sister in real life? shit. shit.

Mr. Locario: Yeah, I got five sisters actually. Yeah. Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, so I all right. Let's say you're you're giving advice to your sisters.

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: What would you say to them, Mr. Lucario?

Mr. Locario: I'll be like, listen, you need to find a man that you can follow. Period. That's it. End of story. That's the end of the conversation. So I would say this, or I was, or I would say it this way. You need to find a man that you can follow, or if you don't want to do that, you're going to find a man who follows you. So, and so if you what you need to if you want a man to follow, that's when you're going to actually have a man that you love, respect, and you want to be with. If a man is following you, then you're gonna be with a guy that you're gonna end up resenting and who's gonna annoy you and you're gonna hate the fact that you have to lead him. So I always tell women, you know, it could be my sisters, it could be any woman, pick your poison. You feel what I'm saying? So so you have a choice. What what what what

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, okay.

Mr. Locario: a lot of women do is they pick the the the guy who wants to follow them because that makes them feel comfortable, but they don't have a lot of women don't have enough game to get the man that they want to follow. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Let's talk about game with for women then. What do you mean? A lot of people a lot of women don't have game. What do you mean by that?

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm. Yeah. yeah. So what so so a lot of women don't have game because what happens is is that the reason why you have women out here who go on dates with guys that they don't really like, you know, string men along, use guys for money, so forth and so that's a woman who doesn't have game because what she has to do is she has to manipulate to get non-sexual time, attention, and energy from a man. When a woman does have game, you know what I'm saying? When a woman does have game, what she does is is that she understands that in order for her to benefit from being with a man, she has to be under his leadership, she has to be under structure, he has to submit. And a lot of women hate the word submission, but in order for her to benefit from having a man, she has to submit. She cannot get a man by having a man submit to her. So anytime when a woman is using a man for his money, the man is submitting to her. Anytime the woman has the guy in the friend zone, the man is submitting to her. Anytime the woman is stringing a man along, the man is submitting to her. So, in order for a woman to actually experience, right, the desire of a man and experience you know, a positive and beneficial relationship, she actually has to follow a man. There's no other way. You see what I'm saying? There's no other way. Right.

Reza Ghaemi: It just comes from our evolution. It's just the way it is. It's the way we're hardwired, right?

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm. That's basically what it is, because you gotta understand that. When a when a woman is see, women like to be in a situation where they're structured. This is why a lot of times, as much as women like sex like we do, a woman

Reza Ghaemi: I thought they liked it more than we do.

Mr. Locario: yeah, they do. And but and but the thing is is that because it's easy for women to get sex, right? They

Reza Ghaemi: Mm.

Mr. Locario: want non-sexual time, energy, and attention from men, right? The the problem is though, is that the guys that women are most attracted to. Are the hardest guys to get non-sexual time, energy, and attention from. So what they do is they settle for the other guys who are gonna follow them. You see what I'm saying? That's jet that's generally how it works. You see what I'm saying? Unfortunately, and so what happens is this: in order for a woman to get that guy that she really, really wants, instead of having to settle for the other dudes, she has to follow that man because that man is only gonna interact with her if she's following him. Because what happens is this. If a man is monogamous or non-monogamous, right? But let's start stick with the monogamous part. If the man is monogamous and he's going to choose a woman to be in his situation and only be with, you know, with her, then what happens is he's essentially saying, I'm choosing you out of all the other women, and I'm gonna stay here and we're gonna keep this going, right? So that means that in order for that to happen, for for it to make sense to him, the woman has to follow him. Now, if a guy is not monogamous, And a woman wants to be with that guy, he's basically saying, I'm gonna keep seeing other women. If you want to be here, you have to accept the fact that I'm gonna keep seeing other women. You see what I'm saying? Which means he has to submit and follow his lead, his program. His program is he's gonna see more women. You know, you see what I'm saying? So, in order for her to get that guy, but the thing is this: the fact that he has access to all these women is what makes him attractive. So, therefore, she wants the most attractive guy. And if he wants the most attractive guy, she has to get with that guy's program. If she's with that monogamous guy, she has to get with his program. Now, this is the caveat though. A lot of these monogamous guys, they'll end up cheating because

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah.

Mr. Locario: they they usually will want a another woman at some point. But if they're on point, they would just let the woman know, hey, listen, we're gonna transition this into I'm gonna see other women and it is what it is, either you hear or not. So for a lot of women, it's hard for them to pin down a guy they actually want because all the other women want him. So he's the hardest guy to to get into that type of relationship. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: for that. valuable shit here. all right, Mr. Lucario, when you're dating an an attractive woman, and we all can put in, you know, there it's pretty clear. A ten out of ten, we know. Like it's clear. Like it's not a debate. Like you, your opinion, my opinion. I think it's different for women, right? Like how do you rate women's attractiveness versus men's attractiveness is what I'm I'm asking here.

Mr. Locario: So what do you mean? Like,

Reza Ghaemi: Like like out of ten. Like it like how do you rate a guy out of ten versus a woman out of ten? Like for a woman it's no homo, no homo. Yeah.

Mr. Locario: I don't I don't I don't I can't rate guys out of ten. I don't be like I don't be like this guy's a ten. but as far as women is women are concerned, if we're doing the number rating scale,

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mr. Locario: you know, for me, a woman a woman who's a ten, if we're just

Reza Ghaemi: Mm-hmm.

Mr. Locario: going physically, if we're just taking out personality. Okay, so overall,

Reza Ghaemi: Overall, overall, everything, everything.

Mr. Locario: okay, so overall then that's that's even better. So if we're talking about overall, a ten to me, in my in my opinion, is A woman who is cooperative. So notice I I talked about the behavior first. So she's cooperative. That's one. two, for me, I like women physically though, it who are a little bit more thicker, have you know curves, booty, breast, you know, that type of stuff. That's that's my thing. I'm not too much into too, too skinny and like too, too, too, you know, big, big. You know what I'm saying? But like in the middle of all that, I'm I'm I'm exactly I'm I'm I'm with all that.

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Hip to waist ratio, yeah.

Mr. Locario: But but yeah, but I think the the the most important part to me is really the cooperation because I always tell guys, and for a lot of guys, then they're young and they're, you know, who might be watching this or older guys who don't have a a lot of experience. The more experienced you get, I always talk about this, the more sophisticated your attraction to the opposite sex gets. This is why I always tell guys that, you know, a lot of guys think, women just want guys who are six foot tall and and ripped. And I'm like, See, you don't understand that women will want those guys, but women have experience with those guys. A lot of women have experience with those guys, which means that they understand that the looks aren't the end all be all, right? Because they have experience with all those guys. Now, check this out. If a man has experience with all these girls, then guess what? The looks aren't gonna be the end all be all. Do you see what I'm saying? So a lot of times when guys don't have experience, the looks are the end all be all for them because they don't really have experience. So All they have experience on is seeing and viewing and watching women from afar. So they're like, she's beautiful. I want her. She's hot. Then once they start dating women, they're like, okay, yeah, she she looks good, but she's annoying. She looks good, but she don't listen. You see what I'm saying? And then so now you're like, I actually want a woman who listens and a woman who's not annoying like that. So then they meet a woman who, for example, they might think physically is a seven, right? But they'll choose her over the girl who's physically a 10. Why? Because a seven is way more cooperative. Not annoying like the other girl. You see what I mean? So

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah. Yeah.

Mr. Locario: that's that's where your tastes become more sophisticated through your experience. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: That's our experience. Yeah, no, for sure, for sure. Hundred percent agree with that. and then in terms of relationships, so I'm gonna we're reaching the end of the show, but first of all, I do want to get to online dating as well. So before I forget that, I always I always bug you about online dating, you know that. But

Mr. Locario: No.

Reza Ghaemi: but in terms of relationship, can you give some advice for like in my situation, like did I talk to you about offline or did I talk about when we hit record? But

Mr. Locario: I think I think you recorded already.

Reza Ghaemi: Like like I hit record. Okay. So like when you're in a relationship with a girl, what is the next level of game with like relationship game, if you know what I mean?

Mr. Locario: You mean like being being able to maintain a relationship?

Reza Ghaemi: Yes, yes, yes.

Mr. Locario: Yeah, so so basically what I tell guys is is you know the best course of action before you even get into a relationship is to make sure you vet a woman. This is why on on my website, shoplacaria.com, I have a program called Master the Vetting Process. So I talk about how to vet women for twelve to eighteen months before she becomes your girlfriend. Cause a lot of times what happens is a woman has to work to

Reza Ghaemi: Twelve to eighteen months.

Mr. Locario: 18 months. Yes. So so he's like, damn, are you

Reza Ghaemi: A long time. I thought I thought you said that's for Drake, not for the ordinary guy. my god.

Mr. Locario: No, and the reason why is this no no no no that's for everybody that's for everybody now now this is the reason why and the reason why is because what most guys do is is that they get into relationships quickly, right? When they meet a woman that she becomes the girlfriend in two, three months.

Reza Ghaemi: Especially if she's hot.

Mr. Locario: Exactly. So they're what they're jumping into it. So the the thing is is that You have to vet a woman because all of what when you're vet when you vet women, you're teaching them how to be with you. It's like they have to be taught. It's like a job. You know, when they go through training at the job so they know how to do the job correctly. It's the same thing. You gotta look at a girlfriend as a position. She has to be trained to be in the position of girlfriend so she knows how to do the job of girlfriend correctly in in your company, which is you, right? So now what happens is you teach the woman how to be with you. And then you see over time if this woman is. Cooperating consistently, because this is the thing that women know how to do well. A woman knows how to pretend for 90 days. A woman can act like she's like super awesome for the first three, four months, right? But what happens is that her real self I'm saying,

Reza Ghaemi: This is stressing me out, Mr. Licario. This is stressing me out.

Mr. Locario: her real self is gonna come out if you vet her for 12 to 18 months. And then so what's gonna happen is

Reza Ghaemi: Holy shit.

Mr. Locario: so what's gonna happen is is that her behavior towards you, right, should be consistent. But then also what happens is her investment in you gets stronger. So what when you don't vet a woman, she's not investing in you. So what you're doing is you're giving her a position without her earning the position. You see what I'm saying? And when a woman earns the position, what happens is once she actually becomes your official girlfriend, right? Then the relationship runs smoothly because she's already been taught how to do that for a year to a year and a half. You see what I'm saying? So you have to teach a woman how to be your girlfriend in order to have a good relationship. If she's not taught, what's gonna happen is she's gonna feel entitled. So what happens is a lot of guys, what they do is when they rush into the relationship, you get into a relationship in three months or four months or whatever, she becomes your girlfriend. She got the title quickly, which means she didn't have to work to get it. So then therefore you didn't test to see: does this woman actually listen to me? Is she really consistently cooperative with me? Does she treat me right? Is she you see what saying? You haven't been with her for a long enough period of time to see if she would actually do it. So now you get into a relationship, you have drama and problems because you didn't vet the woman. You see what I'm saying? That's that's

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, let's talk about vetting though. Do you have some step by step for vetting or no?

Mr. Locario: yeah, yeah. In if it in the in the program. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So right. yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: 'Cause it's a twelve to eighteen months pro it's a twelve to eighteen months. So I assume it's not easy to learn this shit. And by the way, your program, talk to me about the program, yeah.

Mr. Locario: Yeah, so on the programs, for example, you know, most guys you know, can do it this in like twelve months, right? So let's say they do it for a year and I break it down in, you know, the first three months and then six month mark, nine month mark, twelve month mark, right? So with within each of these, you know, quarters, there should be certain things done. So I'll give you the first quarter. Like for example, I always tell guys for the first three months, right, when you first start seeing a woman, it should just be having sex for the first three months. You understand what I'm saying? So if you meet a girl from an online dating site, yeah, you can like meet her, get a drink, but then from that point on, it should just be sex like once a week for the first three months. Right. Exactly. Because right, because right.

Reza Ghaemi: If it's not, it's a red flag, right, Mr. Lucario? Let's just put okay, okay, let's just get that out there.

Mr. Locario: And the reason why it's just sex for the first three months is like I was saying earlier, you wanna have a woman attracted to you by you doing what? The least. So if I tell you to come over, we hook up, then I send you home. You come over the next week. We hook up. I send you home. And then you're doing all of this without complaining. Guess what happens? The reason why she's not complaining is because she's highly interested in you. She's saying, my God, I can't believe he invited me over again to have sex. I'm so grateful that this guy I'm highly sexually attracted to, who I didn't think would call me back, is calling me back to get more D. Now, after the three months, and she's been consistent and she hasn't been complaining, everything's been cool. Then you invite over again, you hook up and you say, Hey, you know what? How about we go out and get some dinner tonight? She's gonna be like, my god, it's the it's we we're moving closer to you see what I'm saying? So now

Reza Ghaemi: Mm.

Mr. Locario: she appreciates the date more in the dinner. And what happens is that that gets her more emotionally invested in you, and that incentivizes her to continue to cooperate for the time that's going on as we get down to the wire. Do you see what I'm saying? So what happens is well, most guys do what they do when they first meet the girl. let me buy you gifts, flowers, let me take you out to Turks and Caicos, and I'm gonna fly you here. And we're gonna they do the most at the beginning.

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Mr. Locario: And so the girl treats them like crap because she didn't have to do anything to get all these things. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah. A hundred percent.

Mr. Locario: So that's that's why you gotta learn how to vet women so that you don't be in situations where you have a girlfriend who is going to basically bring drama, negativity, and nonsense into your life. And this is the kicker. This is where it gets crazy. Is that once you've established that you and this woman are boyfriend and girlfriend, and all that drama is happening, essentially what'll happen is that most likely you guys are gonna break up sooner than later. Now Check this out. What happens is this the label of her being your girlfriend matters because if you, if you guys break up, you've lost a girlfriend. But let's say she wasn't your girlfriend. Let's say it was just a girl you were vetting and y'all was just kicking it, whatever. If it fizzles out, that was just a girl I was, you know, s seeing. So mentally, just on a subconscious level, you don't feel like, you know, I'm going through lots of girlfriends and lots of breakups, which which can turn you bitter. You understand what I'm saying? So you you feel more of a of a of a impact when you when you break up a relationship versus a regular situation just fizzled out. So what you want to do is you wanna be slow to get into relationships. And you do that by vetting. You see what saying? Right.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, okay, okay. Beautiful advice there. Great advice. but but I still I still gotta wanna say, man, eighteen months, dude, like that's a long fucking time.

Mr. Locario: Listen, listen, this is why you gotta date women who are highly sexually attracted to you. That's what I'm because again, and I use this example, right? See, a lot of times when I tell people, hey, for the first few months, just have sex, and a lot of guys, but little Cario, that she's not gonna go for that. She's gonna want more than that. Blah, blah, blah. The reason why guys think that is because most guys they have to do more to keep women interested. When you find women who are highly interested in you. They want every little piece of attention, time, energy you give them. So if you if you say to a woman, hey, let's meet up next week, Friday at my place, she comes through, she's there for like an hour and a half, y'all hook up and you send her home. She's so grateful for that hour and a half because she is she highly values you. So the hour and a half of time is Way more valuable than some other guy she's not really feeling who spent the weekend with her. Do you see what I'm saying? It's just like, for example, let's use a celebrity example just to bring her home. Like, let's say Chris Brown. Let's say Chris Brown hit up a chick on Instagram and say, Hey, I'm gonna be in your city doing a show. I got 20 minutes after my set. You should come through and hang out with me. So she comes through, she drives two hours to come hang out with Chris Brown for 20 minutes. That's the best 20 minutes she's had all year. Do you see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah.

Mr. Locario: So when a woman highly values you, what's gonna happen is the amount of time you give her, she's grateful for it. When she doesn't value you, the amount of time you give her is nothing. She's like, this is it. How come you ain't take me out to here? And how come you ain't do you see what I'm saying? That's her saying you need to do more because I'm not interested like that. You see what I'm saying? So you're essentially testing a woman's interest through the vetting process. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: Amazing advice.

Mr. Locario: No

Reza Ghaemi: and then one last thing, I know what you got you gotta go, but online dating, is that a fucking thing in twenty twenty six? Is it really?

Mr. Locario: yeah. yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Dude, I'm telling you, dudes are missing out. so I on my site too, shoplicario.com, and you guys should go there. I have a online dating consultation where me and my girl, we we we basically redo the guy's pictures, we tell them exactly what they need to do. We also do the bio in the call and then we we send them the messages they just gotta copy and paste. So all they gotta do is we do the whole thing for them. All they gotta do is set it up. Copy and paste messages, set up the dates and make it happen. So the thing. Yeah,

Reza Ghaemi: How expensive is can you talk about the price or no?

Mr. Locario: it's it's was it 297? I think like yeah, 297 right now. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. We set the whole

Reza Ghaemi: That's it? Two ninety seven?

Mr. Locario: thing over. We set the whole thing up. All they gotta do, one-on-one challenge for an hour. Yeah, we set up everything. Yeah, and we and we send them an email. Yeah, exactly.

Reza Ghaemi: Wait, you and they get one on one time with you and your girlfriend? Two ninety seven? You gotta you gotta put some ads on Instagram for this, 'cause that's crazy.

Mr. Locario: So we s and then we sent an email. with the breakdown of everything we talked about in the call. So we send them the step-by-step stuff they got to do for the photos. We send them multiple bios that they can choose from. And then we send them multiple copy and paste messages to send the women and show them how to to set up the date and everything like that. So all of it is there. Now the thing is that with with the with the online dating is this. The reason why online dating sucks for most guys is because their pictures are trash. They usually don't have a bio or if they do have a bio it sucks. And they're not using the app consistently. You see what I'm saying? So they and so and do you see what mean? So we teach them exactly what type of pictures to put. we do the bio and we teach them what type of messages to send and how to get the girls off the app to actually meeting them in person. You see what I'm saying? So we do all of that.

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, okay. So question. how if if that's the case, then ultimately how do you fight the algorithm? Because the algorithm like fucks in fucks with you, right?

Mr. Locario: Yeah, well that well the you fight it by the consistency of of how much you use it. So the consistency

Reza Ghaemi: Okay. Okay.

Mr. Locario: of how much you use it and also how many apps you're using. You so so basically in the

Reza Ghaemi: Mm, yeah.

Mr. Locario: call, we talk about which app, like how many apps to use. We talk about how often you should use it, right? and then we we optimize your actual profile. So then what happens is that your profile stands out from all the other guys' profiles on the app. Because 95% of dudes' profiles suck. So what happens is is women generally are swiping left. So when they get to your profile and they see your picture and then they they s they swipe right or they see your picture and they look at your bio, okay, this guy stands out from all the other guys. And that's that's what we basically work on to get you to stand out from all the other dudes, which is essentially gonna get you way more matches. You see what I'm saying?

Reza Ghaemi: So you don't agree with Michael Sartain in in a very viral clip he has where he says the women on dating apps are either mentally ill or they're putting you on your sex funnel or they're a good woman but a fo in her forties with a bunch of kids. What's your take on that?

Mr. Locario: Hmm. No, I don't I don't I wouldn't say that the women are mentally ill. The thing is is that the same women who are on dating apps are outside. It's the same, it's the same woman. You see what I'm saying? What

Reza Ghaemi: Okay, okay, okay.

Mr. Locario: what happens is is that yeah, of course there's gonna be mentally ill women on dating apps because there's mentally ill women outside of dating apps. Like you know what I mean? So it's not that they're mentally I

Reza Ghaemi: Okay. Yeah. But yeah.

Mr. Locario: think I think what he was saying is is that I think what he was yeah, I think I think I saw a clip of that.

Reza Ghaemi: You saw you saw the clip? Okay. Okay.

Mr. Locario: I think what he was

Reza Ghaemi: Okay.

Mr. Locario: probably saying is that there are a lot of attractive women. And he I guess he thinks that attractive women wouldn't be on the apps, which is not true. There's a lot of attractive women on the apps. And the reason why, the reason why women will also get on the apps too is because women can get, you know, guys outside and all that other stuff here and there, you know, because they're women. Guys are gonna try to talk to them. Some guys might DM them in the the Instagrams or whatever it is like that. But what happens is that. Women on the apps are on the apps for long-term relationships and sex. Now, this is the key though. If you want to get sex, you have to be the sexually appealing guy. And that's actually what we teach them in the in the program. Is that so meaning that you can literally be on the app at 7 p.m., match with a woman at 710, and be that that woman will be at your place at nine. You understand what I'm saying? Or you might meet her for a drink at 9 30 or whatever it is.

Reza Ghaemi: And this this type of shit is happening for real.

Mr. Locario: Yes. That's what I'm tell that's what I'm telling you. I've had plenty of let me show you something. Let me see if I can put my my thing, my screen on the camera. So this is my yeah,

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah. You you might be able to do screen share. I don't know.

Mr. Locario: this is my this is my let me do my video like this real quick. I'm gonna do it on my Mac, my Mac Pro

Reza Ghaemi: Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Mr. Locario: joint. Let me see if I could switch my camera. they're not allowing me to switch my camera. Let me see if I could just do it right here. You probably can see here. So this is I'm just I'm just showing you this is my

Reza Ghaemi: Mm-hmm. I can see it. Yep, I can see clearly.

Mr. Locario: Yeah, this is my hinge. I'm just I'm just covering all the women so you don't see. But if you can see if you see on the hidden, the

Reza Ghaemi: Okay. Uh-huh.

Mr. Locario: hidden says three hundred what is it, three hundred and ninety-eight, something like that. So so

Reza Ghaemi: Yep, yep. Yep.

Mr. Locario: so so basically I got over four hundred matches on hinge and and I don't even use it that much. So imagine if if if a dude

Reza Ghaemi: Wow. Wow.

Mr. Locario: is so imagine you have four hundred something women in your in your thing. You feel what I'm saying? That's online dating. You can actually make that happen again. Like I said

Reza Ghaemi: Mm.

Mr. Locario: earlier, any any s thing you can get women, you can get women online, you can get women offline, you can get women on social media, you can get women social circle, you can always get women anywhere. The thing is is that you just need to know what to do in order to make it more beneficial for you to make things happen. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah.

Reza Ghaemi: Amazing, amazing. Mr. Lucario, thank you so much. We're at

Mr. Locario: Desert.

Reza Ghaemi: fifty-three minutes. so obviously your Instagram is real Mr. Lucario, and then your

Mr. Locario: Mm-hmm.

Reza Ghaemi: programs, you do three main ones the vetting system, the online dating one. Right now it's a promotion for two ninety seven for the everything you said. You'll consult the guy on his profile with your girlfriend, tell him what

Mr. Locario: Mm.

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Reza Ghaemi: Yo, this is a lot of fun for me, Mr. Licario. follow Mr. Licario on Instagram. It's a lot of fun. He puts a lot of clips on there. I'm gonna hit stop on the recording. Thank you.